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David Dast­malchi­an on pover­ty and abuse dra­ma All Crea­tures Here Below

25 Feb 2019

Two young people, a man wearing a red shirt and a woman standing behind him, against a brick wall backdrop.
Two young people, a man wearing a red shirt and a woman standing behind him, against a brick wall backdrop.
The char­ac­ter actor and screen­writer talks pre­sent­ing truth on screen, and what he’s learned from his time in Marvel’s Cin­e­mat­ic Universe.

Since his strik­ing film debut as a haunt­ing hench­man of The Jok­er in The Dark Knight, David Dast­malchi­an has built a strong resume of mem­o­rable sup­port­ing parts in block­busters and auteur-dri­ven projects. He’s a favourite of direc­tor Denis Vil­leneuve, fea­tur­ing in Pris­on­ers, Blade Run­ner 2049 and the upcom­ing Dune, and a main­stay of both Ant-Man films.

He’s also a writer, now of a sec­ond fea­ture in which he also stars. The first, 2014’s Ani­mals, drew inspi­ra­tion from his own his­to­ry of addic­tion and home­less­ness sev­er­al years pri­or to his act­ing career. All Crea­tures Here Below, also from Ani­mals direc­tor Collin Schif­fli, again explores pover­ty as well as sex­u­al abuse which Dast­malchi­an says stems from rev­e­la­tions in both his own fam­i­ly and his child­hood neighbourhood.

The film con­cerns a young cou­ple, Gen­san (Dast­malchi­an) and Ruby (Karen Gillan), left behind by soci­ety and bare­ly get­ting by, forced on the run after mul­ti­ple des­per­ate acts go awry. I don’t think there’s any illu­sions that there’s a huge John Stein­beck and Car­son McCullers influ­ence in my work,” Dast­malchi­an says of his writ­ing. Our job as sto­ry­tellers is to cre­ate a space where the audi­ence can see some glim­mer of some­thing inside of your char­ac­ters that they can either relate to or that sparks some sense of empa­thy. If they don’t, you’re dead in the water and they’re not going to care to sit there and watch a pret­ty bru­tal jour­ney. I am a pro­pa­gan­dist for com­pas­sion, love, equal­i­ty and I do want sto­ries to hope­ful­ly cre­ate some space for com­pas­sion with people.”

Two adults, a man and a woman, embrace in a warm embrace against a floral backdrop.

Dastmalchian’s co-star, Karen Gillan, has sim­i­lar­ly lever­aged a promi­nent block­buster pres­ence (she plays Neb­u­la in the Guardians of the Galaxy and most recent Avengers films) into get­ting small per­son­al projects off the ground. Turns out it pays to be even a recur­ring side­kick in the MCU. There’s obvi­ous­ly great finan­cial strain relieved in those in between moments when you’re not act­ing,” Dast­malchi­an explains. You’re giv­en a lit­tle more free­dom, and with that free­dom comes a choice. I love writ­ing. I have sto­ries I want to tell that will not get finan­cial­ly sup­port­ed by major stu­dios. And I have been for­tu­nate enough to lever­age one into the oth­er, and they real­ly feed one anoth­er in this mar­vel­lous way.”

It’s rare that some­one who has expe­ri­enced pover­ty as an adult gets to write and per­form a fic­tion film nar­ra­tive on that top­ic. As such, Dast­malchi­an is acute­ly aware of fram­ing of such strug­gles in a sen­si­tive yet authen­tic way. On Ani­mals,” he recalls, we would go into the com­mu­ni­ties where I actu­al­ly had been an addict or had slept in cars. You’re try­ing to cap­ture that with the inten­tion of paint­ing a por­trait, telling a sto­ry, cre­at­ing a con­nec­tion with an audi­ence, while at the same time your lens is a real­ly tricky thing. You have to be very del­i­cate with that.”

There can be a per­va­sive glo­ri­fi­ca­tion of rough­ness,” he con­tin­ues, espe­cial­ly when it comes to con­cepts like mas­culin­i­ty and sex­u­al­i­ty and this rough-and-tum­ble por­tray­al of the poor. And it’s like, go spend time with these peo­ple! There’s lit­er­al­ly noth­ing dif­fer­ent about them to you and me, oth­er than the place in which they lay their head, the clothes they wear upon their bod­ies, the access that they’re giv­en. And I mean giv­en. It’s ridicu­lous to me that edu­ca­tion­al oppor­tu­ni­ties are rel­e­gat­ed to people’s finan­cial status.”

Although stress­ing that he doesn’t view his own work as com­pa­ra­ble to this film­mak­er, Dast­malchi­an points to Ter­rence Mal­ick as some­one who gets an approach to pover­ty right. He can tell a fas­ci­nat­ing sto­ry of peo­ple rang­ing from the wealth­i­est to the poor­est, the most edu­cat­ed to the least, with an eye that feels jus­ti­fied. He holds a place between his lens and his sub­jects; it nev­er feels exploita­tive. I’m not going to call out by name film­mak­ers or films that I feel do the oppo­site, but there’s too many to think about.”

All Crea­tures Here Below screened at Glas­gow Film Fes­ti­val and is cur­rent­ly seek­ing UK dis­tri­b­u­tion. It will be released in the US lat­er this year.

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