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Lau­ra Wan­del: It was impor­tant that the chil­dren made this film their own’

21 Apr 2022

Words by Lillian Crawford

A black and white portrait of a woman with curly dark hair wearing a leather jacket and a lace blouse, looking directly at the camera with a contemplative expression.
A black and white portrait of a woman with curly dark hair wearing a leather jacket and a lace blouse, looking directly at the camera with a contemplative expression.
The Bel­gian direc­tor of har­row­ing Cannes stand-out Play­ground on the intri­ca­cies of mak­ing a film from the per­spec­tive of kids.

Bel­gian direc­tor Lau­ra Wan­del won the Suther­land Award at the 2021 Lon­don Film Fes­ti­val, award­ed to the best debut fea­ture in com­pe­ti­tion, which Wan­del received for Un Monde (A World), released in the UK as Play­ground. It’s a bold and often shock­ing depic­tion of child­hood bul­ly­ing at pri­ma­ry school fea­tur­ing remark­able per­for­mances from young actors Maya Van­der­beque and Gün­ter Duret.

LWLies: What inspired you to focus on children?

Wan­del: I want­ed my audi­ence to be con­front­ed again with the per­spec­tive of child­hood which we’ve all expe­ri­enced. Espe­cial­ly those first moments where you start at school, this micro­cosm of soci­ety where you first feel the need to be recog­nised by oth­ers to be included.

That required the audi­ence to be total­ly immersed, so the best way to achieve this was to stay at the children’s eye lev­el through­out. I invit­ed them to sense the world with the char­ac­ters, to par­tic­i­pate active­ly along­side them rather than just con­nect­ing on an intel­lec­tu­al level.

What demands did that per­spec­tive place on the cinematography?

The Direc­tor of Pho­tog­ra­phy, Frédéric Noirhomme, had a har­ness with the cam­era held at his bel­ly but­ton. He need­ed to be able to keep the cam­era there through­out the shoot with­out doing his back in, so we had the assis­tant cam­er­ap­er­son stand­ing next to him to hold the bat­tery. On this project we were respond­ing to the children’s move­ments so we had to remain alert to what they were doing and fol­low them.

At the same time, I was giv­ing the actors direc­tions so I was always mov­ing with the cam­era, hold­ing a small video mon­i­tor so I could keep an eye on the footage. This was all worked out before we start­ed shoot­ing so the chil­dren knew how it was going to work, allow­ing them just to focus on what they were doing while hear­ing me call­ing out direc­tions simultaneously.

Was there much prece­dent for what you were por­tray­ing and how you were doing it?

Dur­ing the writ­ing process I watched Son of Saul by Lás­zló Nemes which uses a cin­e­mato­graph­ic style of close­ness to the lead char­ac­ter that reas­sured me that this was an involv­ing and immer­sive style of sto­ry­telling that I want­ed to pur­sue. It worked for this film and my next film, which is set in a hos­pi­tal, won’t be shot in the same way. It was par­tic­u­lar for this sto­ry and the close­ness that I need­ed to cre­ate to tell that story.

Two young boys with dark hair sitting together indoors.

That lev­el of immer­sion is per­fect­ly cap­tured in the orig­i­nal title, Un Monde, which is per­haps lost in the Eng­lish title, Play­ground. How did you feel about the translation?

My Eng­lish is not good enough to under­stand the sub­tleties of the lan­guage and the dif­fer­ences in the titles, but it was the choice of the peo­ple sell­ing the film to give it the Eng­lish title Play­ground. I’m not con­vinced that it’s the best title for the film because it reduces the sense of a world, un monde’, to some­thing much small­er and more specific.

I liked the idea of the children’s expe­ri­ence and their school being un monde’, that it is the seed of adult soci­ety and where the themes and expe­ri­ences of the larg­er world find their roots. Of course, it goes both ways – I want­ed to show how the wider world impacts the school world, and the way children’s behav­iours and atti­tudes are affect­ed by adults in and out­side of that environment.

What was the expe­ri­ence of shoot­ing this film like for the chil­dren, and for you work­ing with them? Had any of them worked on a set before?

Maya had nev­er worked on a set. Gün­ter had a bit, but the rest hadn’t. The first thing I did was to teach Maya to swim, three months ahead of the shoot, and for me the most work I need to do is to get to know the actor and form a bond of trust with them before get­ting on set.

I didn’t want to give the script to the chil­dren before­hand because I was wor­ried that it would end up sound­ing like adult dia­logue com­ing out of the mouths of chil­dren. It was very impor­tant that they would make it their own and that there would be a cre­ative part in the work that they brought to the film.

I’d heard about an edu­ca­tion­al spe­cial­ist who had already worked with a four-year-old on anoth­er shoot and she explained her method to me. We met every week­end and the chil­dren made pup­pets of their char­ac­ters so that they could dis­tin­guish between them­selves and their respec­tive char­ac­ters. I’d give them the start of a scene and ask them what they would do in that sit­u­a­tion, and then my job was to guide them towards where I want­ed that scene to land.

This led to dis­cus­sions about the ques­tion of vio­lence and what they might have seen or expe­ri­enced them­selves. Then I asked them to impro­vise, to enact it phys­i­cal­ly, and some­times the dia­logue they came up with inter­est­ed me more than what I’d orig­i­nal­ly writ­ten and I felt that real­ly enriched the script.

The depic­tion of bul­ly­ing and vio­lence in the film is very real­is­tic in a way not many films have shown. What made you want to include that in the film?

Maya had expe­ri­enced bul­ly­ing and Gün­ter had been a wit­ness to it, so it was impor­tant not to make them reen­act their own expe­ri­ences but to use that expe­ri­ence to bring a sen­si­tiv­i­ty to their per­for­mances. When we were cast­ing we need­ed to make sure that they were chil­dren who had a cer­tain dis­tance from what they had expe­ri­enced because we couldn’t have chil­dren still raw from the trau­ma of being bullied.

In terms of the idea of real­i­ty and authen­tic­i­ty, I did a lot of research talk­ing to par­ents, teach­ers, spe­cial­ists, and psy­chi­a­trists about what they had observed about child­hood bul­ly­ing and that informed the nar­ra­tive of the film. It’s an amal­ga­ma­tion of real sto­ries I was told. I want­ed it to be uni­ver­sal, for every­one to con­nect to it.

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