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Jes­si­ca Haus­ner: Hap­pi­ness is overrated’

18 Feb 2020

Words by Adam Woodward

Illustration of a smiling woman with long, wavy blonde hair in shades of blue and yellow.
Illustration of a smiling woman with long, wavy blonde hair in shades of blue and yellow.
The Lour­des and Amour Fou film­mak­er on her unset­tling Eng­lish-lan­guage debut, Lit­tle Joe.

Being cen­tred around a team of botanists, led by Emi­ly Beecham’s Alice, who have devel­oped a new strain of flower which emits an endor­phin-boost­ing scent (with pre­dictably unex­pect­ed results), Jes­si­ca Hausner’s Lit­tle Joe is, on the sur­face at least, a genre-inflect­ed cau­tion­ary tale about the dan­gers of genet­ic engineering.

But the seed for the film was plant­ed when the Aus­tri­an writer/​director became inter­est­ed in explor­ing the idea of what it means to be a moth­er and a pro­fes­sion­al woman today. We sat down with her at the 2019 Cannes Film Fes­ti­val to find out more.

LWLies: This the first film you’ve made in Eng­lish. What was the main deci­sion behind that?

Haunser: I want­ed to make an Eng­lish-lan­guage film because this sto­ry has a genre ele­ment to it and for me genre films are always Eng­lish-lan­guage, Amer­i­can movies. And the Eng­lish lan­guage is short and pre­cise and has some humour in it that is acces­si­ble for me. I feel I can express myself in Eng­lish some­times bet­ter than I can in Ger­man. Ger­man can be com­pli­cat­ed; the sen­tences are longer and if they’re short they’re some­times banal. And of course, work­ing with this group of actors was a par­tic­u­lar joy.

There’s more humour in Lit­tle Joe than in your pre­vi­ous films.

That’s true – but actu­al­ly I always thought my films were fun­ny. At a cer­tain point I had to acknowl­edge that not every­one per­ceived the humour, so I thought this time I had to make it more obvi­ous. But also, shoot­ing in Eng­lish, I sud­den­ly became aware of why the British are known for their dark humour. It works well in that lan­guage. We shot half of the film in Aus­tria because of fund­ing rea­sons, but most of the exte­ri­or loca­tions are in the UK.

I enjoyed the line about Brexit.

The Brex­it thing actu­al­ly came about while I was writ­ing the script, but it became use­ful because I had already decid­ed that I want­ed to set the film in the near future. At the moment Europe has very strict reg­u­la­tions about gene tech­nol­o­gy; it would be dif­fi­cult to sell such a plant as the one in my film with­in Europe. But soon, who knows…

Your film deals more direct­ly with per­son­al and gen­der pol­i­tics, specif­i­cal­ly the role of women and moth­ers in society.

I want­ed to tell a more gen­er­al sto­ry about the human con­di­tion. I ask myself quite often what are the true feel­ings and what is the true per­son­al­i­ty of some­one, and is it at all pos­si­ble to know some­one well. And also I think it’s very nor­mal and nat­ur­al to act in our lives: right now I’m speak­ing to you and I’m the direc­tor, lat­er I will see my hus­band and then I’m the wife, and tonight when I say good­night to my kid I’m the mum. So I have dif­fer­ent roles in my life – every one of us has that.

What kind of research did you and Emi­ly Beecham do into her character?

Emi­ly and I pre­pared by watch­ing a lot of inter­views with female sci­en­tists, like Emmanuelle Char­p­en­tier, who invent­ed the CRISPR/​Cas 9 genome edit­ing tech­nol­o­gy. We actu­al­ly copied the lit­tle scarf she always wears. That was real­ly impor­tant in allow­ing us to access the role and to bet­ter under­stand the char­ac­ter. Emmanuelle has said that she does not have very much free time – in fact in one inter­view when she’s asked what she does in her spare time she says, almost as if she’s repeat­ing some­thing she’s read in a book, Well I lis­ten to music, I read a book…’ You know she nev­er ever has any free time and she prob­a­bly wouldn’t know what to do with it.

Is hap­pi­ness overrated?

Yes. I mean, humans have always desired hap­pi­ness but nowa­days it has become such a threat. It’s such a pres­sure to always feel like you have to be hap­py, and project that feel­ing all the time. When was the last time you met some­one and asked them how they are doing and they said, Bad, actu­al­ly.’ We’re con­stant­ly putting up a front and I think this can actu­al­ly pre­vent us from being hap­py in some ways. And social media has real­ly changed things. For exam­ple, my kid in school learns how to present him­self online – it’s a pos­i­tive thing, but it just shows how much our soci­ety has changed. How you present your­self has become more impor­tant than what you present.

Lit­tle Joe is released 21 Feb­ru­ary. Read the LWLies Rec­om­mends review.

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