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Bette Gor­don: Between female desire and grat­i­fi­ca­tion lies a space full of possibilities’

07 Aug 2023

Words by Anna Bogutskaya

Night Walking: Bette Gordon speaks! Photography! Performance! Porno!
Night Walking: Bette Gordon speaks! Photography! Performance! Porno!
As Vari­ety returns with a 2K restora­tion, Bette Gor­don reflects on the mak­ing of a cult clas­sic, her love for 80s New York and her friend­ship with Nan Goldin.

Bette Gor­don grew up watch­ing New York City in black-and-white movies. When she moved there in the late 70s, she was a visu­al artist and film­mak­er at one of the worst and best times to do those things in the city. Rea­gan­ite pol­i­tics had just led to major slash­es in arts fund­ing. Land­lords kept build­ings emp­ty wait­ing for big-mon­ey buyers. 

Gor­don, who grew up in Boston and had stud­ied in Paris after she fell in love with Jean-Luc Godard’s Breath­less, would walk around the city look­ing for the under­world she had seen in films like Samuel Fuller’s Pick­up on South Street and Jules Dassin’s The Naked City. This city is a city of film noir,” she recalls when think­ing back to that ini­tial love for New York. It’s a city with streets that you’ve seen and imag­ined, and now I inhab­it those streets.”

Artists, musi­cians, pho­tog­ra­phers, film­mak­ers (Gor­don includ­ed), all lived in sprawl­ing, emp­ty Tribeca lofts, shar­ing both elec­tric­i­ty and ideas. She had a 16mm pro­jec­tor and would throw par­ties, invit­ing peo­ple over to watch a movie: It was a good time for mak­ing work with­out the heavy mar­ket­place hang­ing over you,” she tells me over a phone call that was sched­uled to be 30 min­utes, but stretch­es to two hours. 

This New York of lofts, cre­ative min­gling and pool­ing of resources is the envi­ron­ment which gave birth to Vari­ety, her 1983 neon-noir fea­ture about a woman who takes a job as a tick­et sell­er at a porn the­atre, equal parts repelled and fas­ci­nat­ed by the milieu in which she is enveloped. Writ­ten by punk author Kathy Ack­er, shot by future Liv­ing in Obliv­ion direc­tor Tom DiCil­lo, with music by com­pos­er John Lurie, and star­ring Sandy McLeod, Will Pat­ton, Luis Guzmán and Nan Goldin, Vari­ety is a who’s‑who of 1980s avant-garde cool.

Gor­don was always attract­ed to the half-lit streets of film noir, the mys­tery and the dark­ness, but more so it was the genre’s female char­ac­ters who pos­sessed a kind of dan­ger­ous and intrigu­ing sex­u­al­i­ty” that appealed to her. In my process of lov­ing these gen­res of cin­e­ma, I thought, What about turn­ing the thriller on its head?’,” she says. What if the Kim Novak char­ac­ter [from Ver­ti­go] became the inves­ti­ga­tor and the male char­ac­ter, the Jim­my Stew­art one, became the enig­mat­ic figure?” 

Her vision of revers­ing the Hitch­cock­ian thriller was deep­ened by her ran­dom dis­cov­ery of the Vari­ety The­atre dur­ing one of her night walks. Its neon mar­quee was some­thing out of the past because I was look­ing for the past,” she recalls. I couldn’t stop think­ing about this mar­quee, all lit up in red and green. It was call­ing me and I couldn’t look away.” A for­mer horse sta­ble turned vaude­ville the­atre turned nick­elodeon in the East Vil­lage, the 450-seater went from host­ing live action revues to play­ing porn movies before being turned into an unsuc­cess­ful Off-Broad­way the­atre and, even­tu­al­ly, being torn down in 2005. In the 80s, it was a cruis­ing spot for gay men. Author and cin­e­ma own­er Jack Steven­son described it as, a potent cock­tail of old moviehouse kar­ma and ram­pant sleaze.”

The cinema’s man­ag­er allowed her to have the cin­e­ma for six hours on a Sun­day, and she made Anybody’s Woman for $75, a spo­ken word exper­i­men­tal short with her pals Spald­ing Gray and Nan­cy Reil­ly. In the film, which is a the­mat­ic pre­cur­sor to Vari­ety, the char­ac­ters talk about their thoughts on pornog­ra­phy. It’s with this film that she began to sketch the back­bone of Vari­ety, and play around with the idea of the mono­logue. She began mod­el­ling her cen­tral char­ac­ter, with­out even real­is­ing it, on Kathy Acker. 

At this point, the exper­i­men­tal nov­el­ist was known for appro­pri­at­ing and remix­ing the work of oth­er writ­ers such as Charles Dick­ens and Pierre Guy­otat, and she would often per­form her own work. Acker’s work is explic­it and explo­sive­ly sub­ver­sive. Always focused on reimag­in­ing lan­guage as a fem­i­nist tool, her writ­ing was sex­u­al­ly vivid – per­fect for Vari­ety. In the film, pro­tag­o­nist Christine’s dead­pan descrip­tion of explic­it scenes while her boyfriend lis­tens silent­ly takes direct inspi­ra­tion from Acker’s refash­ion­ing of porno­graph­ic lan­guage: She sub­vert­ed this kind of male lan­guage, remak­ing it for her­self, insert­ing women in that lan­guage which she took as her own, as does Chris­tine,” says Gordon.

The film­mak­er was also heav­i­ly inspired by film the­o­rist Lau­ra Mulvey’s 1975 essay Visu­al Plea­sure and Nar­ra­tive Cin­e­ma’, which, real­ly opened me to being able to explore the sub­ject of women and look­ing.” Vari­ety, in Gordon’s own words, is a film about look­ing. Chris­tine sits in the free-stand­ing tick­et booth all day, where she can see and be seen.” It uses frames with­in frames, door­ways, win­dows and reflec­tions to cap­ture the idea of look­ing and being looked at. 

A person with blonde, spiky hair wearing a black leather jacket, holding records and looking intently at the camera.

Gor­don is fas­ci­nat­ed with spaces, and how a woman oper­ates when she infil­trates an intrin­si­cal­ly male space: the base­ball game where an enig­mat­ic patron of the cin­e­ma takes Chris­tine on a date; and the Ful­ton Fish Mar­ket where she fol­lows him, wan­der­ing around a sea of fish­mon­gers and store own­ers with card­board signs.

Vari­ety is a doc­u­ment of a con­tra­dic­to­ry peri­od, a dank New York which boast­ed a boom­ing artis­tic under­ground. Cook­ie Mueller, artist, writer and one of John Waters’ Dream­lan­ders, appears in a bit part. And Nan Goldin, already heav­i­ly in the scene but not yet the grande dame of por­trait pho­tog­ra­phy that she would become, has a sup­port­ing role. 

I met Nan Goldin before I knew that I met Nan Goldin,” she says. Still, liv­ing in Boston, she was on her way to pick up a friend when she got a fran­tic call from a woman locked in his Tribeca loft. That woman was Goldin. Some time lat­er, liv­ing in New York, she asked her friend and fel­low film­mak­er Vivi­enne Dick to shoot a scene for her film Emp­ty Suit­cas­es and was intro­duced to Nan, prop­er­ly this time. In the scene Gor­don want­ed to shoot with her, two women would be exchang­ing clothes and tak­ing pic­tures of each oth­er. She asked Nan if she was inter­est­ed: Are you kid­ding? Chang­ing clothes and pho­tog­ra­phy are my pas­sion,” replied Goldin, a relat­able genius. Since then, they became close friends and occa­sion­al collaborators. 

Gor­don snuck the pho­tog­ra­ph­er into the deliv­ery room when she had her daugh­ter, and Goldin took a pic­ture of her sec­onds after she was born. When the same daugh­ter got mar­ried, Goldin was the wed­ding pho­tog­ra­ph­er. Liv­ing down­town put us in con­stant con­tact,” Gor­don remem­bers. There was music, images and what­ev­er else was going on” at places such as the Mudd Club, Club 57, Dance­te­ria, Tier 3, where they screened each other’s films (and Nan would present her slideshows) in between the band sets. Goldin was pho­tograph­ing then but had not yet made her mas­ter­piece, The Bal­lad of Sex­u­al Dependency’. 

She was the one who intro­duced Gor­don to Tin Pan Alley, the bar where she worked and which would become a major loca­tion for Vari­ety: It was the only place we went when we went uptown”. Gor­don still rel­ish­es Goldin’s act­ing in the film Vari­ety (“She was so good, I said, now you’re gonna have a career as an actress!’”) and in 2009 she pub­lished a book of pho­tographs from the set of Vari­ety, which also became an exhi­bi­tion. The book becomes a curi­ous exten­sion of the film, a tan­gi­ble ver­sion of Vari­ety: My cam­era and her cam­era are very sim­i­lar,” says Gor­don, but the process is very different.” 

When they did the book togeth­er, Gor­don, always dri­ven by nar­ra­tive, want­ed to fol­low the sto­ry of the film; but that’s not what dri­ves Nan at all. She is dri­ven by images that tell a sto­ry.” Group­ing the images togeth­er, Goldin makes them fol­low a visu­al log­ic, not a nar­ra­tive log­ic. The real col­lab­o­ra­tion was the movie. It was Nan as a char­ac­ter, Nan as a force. Nan invit­ing me into her world, me invit­ing her into mine and the crossover between my lens and her lens.”

Though it is now the sub­ject of many a beau­ti­ful essay by fem­i­nist cinephiles and screen­ing reg­u­lar­ly at film fes­ti­vals world­wide, the film was orig­i­nal­ly received with cheers and boos”. It pre­miered at the Director’s Fort­night strand in Cannes. The fes­ti­val wouldn’t accept a 16mm print, so they had to blow it up to 35mm. This and the film­mak­ers’ trip was paid for by the New York pre­mière – they rent­ed out Vari­ety Cin­e­ma for a whole week­end to show Vari­ety the Movie (“there were lines around the block!”) – and some mon­ey pro­duc­er Renée Shafran­sky bor­rowed from a book­ie she knew who sold lot­tery tick­ets for off-track betting. 

It was a con­tro­ver­sial film from the start, more in Amer­i­ca than in Europe,” recalls Gor­don, try­ing to pin­point what exact­ly riled up peo­ple so much. The most dis­turb­ing thing to peo­ple was that the end­ing didn’t pro­vide a con­clu­sion.” Vari­ety ends on a shot of a dark, emp­ty street, the character’s fate left unknown: Between female desire, which is what the film is about, and grat­i­fi­ca­tion lies an emp­ty space, and that space is full of possibilities.”

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