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Alex Cox: I’m more sym­pa­thet­ic to Lydon’s point of view than ever’

02 Aug 2016

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Illustration of a smiling man with distinct facial features and hairstyle, set within a circular frame with a rope-like border.
The direc­tor of Sid and Nan­cy reflects on the mis­takes he made and dis­cov­er­ing Gary Oldman.

The Sex Pis­tols’ bassist, Sid Vicious, died of a hero­in over­dose in Feb­ru­ary 1979, 4 months after stab­bing his girl­friend Nan­cy Spun­gen to death. By 1986, Alex Cox had made a drama­tised biopic, star­ring Gary Old­man in his first lead­ing role. Sid’s band­mate and friend, John Lydon/​Johnny Rot­ten, panned Sid and Nan­cy in his 1994 auto­bi­og­ra­phy, call­ing it fuck­ing fan­ta­sy” and say­ing that Cox was quite lucky I didn’t shoot him.”

Before pro­duc­tion began, Cox sent Lydon the script. The response was sug­gest­ed changes, includ­ing San­dra Bern­hard in the role of Sid, and the John­ny Rot­ten char­ac­ter as a Scouser. It would have been impres­sion­is­tic, and a slight­ly more rev­o­lu­tion­ary dra­ma, but we didn’t go that way.” This is some­thing that Cox regrets: Look­ing back on it now I’m more sym­pa­thet­ic to Lydon’s point of view than ever.”

LWLies: Why is that?

Cox: His take on it was a bet­ter one. Our attempt to emu­late the scene was inevitably doomed to fail because you could nev­er repli­cate some­thing like that.

And why do it?

Film is a work of art. It should have free­dom and lib­er­ty. I like the film when it devi­ates from the true sto­ry, for exam­ple: the depic­tion of the con­certs. The con­certs were nev­er like that. When punks were play­ing in Lon­don the gigs were sparse­ly attend­ed. There would be some skin­ny guys doing the punk pogo, but we recre­at­ed it like the mosh pits of South­ern Cal­i­for­nia: mas­sive crowds of peo­ple in there, wad­ing about, because that was what I was used to.

What else would you would do dif­fer­ent­ly if you remade Sid and Nan­cy today?

I’d do just what Lydon told me to. I’d have Drew Schofield play John­ny as a Scouser. I’d have San­dra Bern­hard play Sid. I wouldn’t have the hap­py end­ing, you know, the taxi to heav­en stuff, because I think that’s very com­pro­mised. It’s sen­ti­men­tal and dis­hon­est, because we were try­ing to make a film that con­demned Sid and Nan­cy for their deca­dence. The punk move­ment was essen­tial­ly a pos­i­tive move­ment that was sup­posed to be for­ward-look­ing. You can’t do that if you’re a junkie rock star in a hotel room. The scene in the film that was the impor­tant one for my co-writer, Abbé Wool, and I was the scene where they go to the methadone clin­ic, and the char­ac­ter played by Sy Richard­son gives them a lec­ture. He won’t give them the methadone until he tells them that they’ve com­plete­ly betrayed the move­ment and they’ve betrayed them­selves. That was the point of the film, but I think that gets for­got­ten, and gets under­cut by the qua­si-hap­py end­ing. If I was to remake it, I would end it with Sid dying in a pool of his own vomit.

How did you dis­cov­er Gary Oldman?

We had a fan­tas­tic cast­ing direc­tor called Lucy Boult­ing who was based in Lon­don. She said to me, There’s this boy who’s act­ing in a play at the Bar­bi­can right now, The War Plays [by Edward Bond], you might want to go and see him.’ So, I went to see the play and even though Gary only had a small part I was very impressed. I met him and talked about the char­ac­ter. Then I was in a real quandary because Lucy had intro­duced me to two young actors, just start­ing out, nei­ther of whom had yet made a fea­ture film. One was Gary Old­man and one was Daniel Day-Lewis. How to choose between two good actors? They would have brought dif­fer­ent things to it. Daniel would have brought more of a roman­tic aspect to the char­ac­ter and made more of the love affair. Gary came from Bermond­sey where Sid was from and was gen­uine­ly from a work­ing class fam­i­ly, where­as Dan was from an aris­to­crat­ic fam­i­ly and the son of a poet laureate.

Has there ever been an equiv­a­lent to the punk move­ment in cinema?

In the late 70s, ear­ly 80s, there was a black film move­ment in Los Ange­les involv­ing peo­ple like Charles Bur­nett, Bil­ly Wood­ber­ry and Julie Dash. It was called the LA Rebel­lion. They made very low-bud­get films, but they weren’t like gang­ster, hip-hop, shoot em ups or blax­ploita­tion movies. They were about the expe­ri­ences of real black peo­ple. They were made with­out any fund­ing from stu­dios. They were extra­or­di­nary films by very tal­ent­ed film­mak­ers, espe­cial­ly Bur­nett, who is one of the best film­mak­ers ever.

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